Posted 16.08.2014 @ 12.53PM
Yeah my point exactly. So the tricks ruin it for everyone, basically, and the only way to get your site out there is just to do it right. I don't want to call 'doing it right' SEO. If you make a site, and it's great, people will find it. Full stop.
So we've come full circle. If someone creates a site and on launching it asks "how do I get my site to rock up on the first page of a Google search" with hope that some answers might reveal a few tricks to get their site ranking higher, the right answer (as you've already posted on the first page) is there are no tricks, if it's a good site it'll get out there... or something along those lines.
Posted 16.08.2014 @ 9.02AM
Really really good stuff Dave. Your posts really demystify a lot of the confusion out there.
I'm sure there are more than a few things I could do to rank even better with all my web sites but I'm not going to bother. I've been there before, adding meta tags, writing a shitload of keywords in white on a white background in the footer, etc, man we buzzed over this shit back in the 90's. The landscape is just changing so much, and every time I look back at all the effort put in to try to rank higher in the past just seems like a waste of time, as over time Google have gone and penalised people for these "tricks".
Recently we had an ex-Google guy come in to Zen for a massive meeting about AdWords. Damn that interface, the system, it's so stiff and techy, it's rubbish to be honest. SO confusing. We spent some money on a few things, it just felt so stupid to me. In the end I don't even know if we got results, all I do know is we lost a bunch of money.
I wish the old explorative and artistic design sites of the past would come back. Using html to break layouts (I think you would consider this bad code these days). Scrolling right a billion pixels, using crazy keyboard characters in site titles, web designers literally trying to break the internet. The Design Posse, K10K, man we had a blast. Was such an amazing movement where no-one cared so much about trying to rank and get in peoples faces, there was no left nav, or top nav, sites looked so different to each other whereas most sites just look and function the same these days (sounding my age... lol).
Posted 18.08.2014 @ 11.23AM
Can't add much to what Dave has said.
::there are no tricks, if it's a good site it'll get out there::
That kind of sums it up I think. There are a lot of people out there (the vast majority in my experience) that think 'SEO' is a plugin you can just install to make your site 'rank no 1 on Google' but as @Dave has explained, it's about how your site is built/written/updated.
@JustinFox my point about Coke was:
::Although if you search a company name on Google and it doesn't come up first I would be worried.::
Coke is first when you Google 'Coke'. But so are 99% of the world's companies when you **search for their company name**.
::I think SEO only comes into play when you are looking for "cola drink in Melbourne"::
When you don't know a company and you **search for something based on other information** (location, category, etc), that's when SEO is important.
::For the record, Coke is second on the list when you Google that.::
Karma Cola came up first in my Google search using this example.
Posted 17.12.2012 @ 10.47AM
@ROWLANDM - those shots are awesome!
@JUBBJUBB @OLI @JUSTINFOX nice shots as always!
I haven't really been bothered to take my photos off my camera lately, got a bunch to sort through but heres a few
ps. @JUSTINFOX your job looks like a whole lot of fun, a bit jealous!