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Posted 20.12.2011 @ 12.38PM (Edited 20.12.2011 @ 12.44PM)
Like i said Dave. Its all about balance. Using examples such as "20 themes copied and used as ones own" is a little extreme.
What's wrong with a designer using some themes and resources and having good turn arounds for a specific client base alongside more convoluted and resource hungry work (and better paid projects) too? Find a middle ground aye :)
Anyway fellas- have a good xmas and thanks for the advice.
Posted 20.12.2011 @ 10.06AM (Edited 20.12.2011 @ 10.35AM)
I've seen all kinds of stuff that's not what i feel is "right" within the design community, but employing a graphical layout similar to millions of sites online is not top of that list for me :) Clearly you feel very strong about this kind of stuff. Fair enough too. Does the original developer get paid? Does the client get a fantastic website that works and nails the brief at a great price? These are my major concerns, not what others are doing to make a living. If i can then promote a variant of the theme so other clients can get on board for the same deal- then i will.
Nothing unethical about that in my eyes - especially when others charge 3- times as much for the same thing ;)
It's not as black and white as most see it though. While blatant promotions of others designs being their own is not appreciated- its no different to employing a designer as a freelancer and putting that work within your business folio. No difference at all.
Posted 20.12.2011 @ 8.57AM (Edited 20.12.2011 @ 9.26AM)
Dave, I'm asking how to target facebook likes for a business not for personal moral and ethical aspects (or hang ups) of running it. But thanks for your opinions.
My ethics are just fine though if you must know. If i use a wordpress theme and mod/ customise it, i'll pay the developer for the theme and then mod it for a client who pays what its actually worth (based on my time) :) I don't see the need to outline that i've modified a base theme- very much like i don't tell clients my printing trade costs, mark ups and any other service providers i've employed to reach project goals :) That's what running a business is about- stream lining processes and products for greater profits. I know....shock...horror....some of us actually want to make a living!
On a positive note though, its a wonderful time for independent freelancers and solo designers and i don't feel guilty at all utilizing all the tools at hand to make it work for the client- if that's using ready made themes, vector graphics, stock photos, off shore developers, offshore printers- so beit. It's bloody great to have so many resources at hand.
The real ethical question that is often neglected by the "creative community" is how some designers (and studios) can get away with charging what they do :) It ain't medicine :D
Honestly though, preaching to others about design ethics is a can of worms waiting to be opened- like politics and religion. Forums are great for that though.
None of us are perfect aye- but we do try :) Thanks for your thoughts dude.
Posted 20.12.2011 @ 8.42AM (Edited 20.12.2011 @ 8.46AM)
Hey zack- great idea (and thanks for the +++) and that would be a great approach. With the photography side of things i'm targeting creatives and sporting events so the family portrait side is not my thing (currently!) ha
Having had a good think (based on this thread!) i'll leave the photo side of things until i get the 2012 season over and done with. I have some really cool stuff booked for my first season in early 2012 for some big kiwi events and individual athletes, so once that's over and done with i'll spend more time and energy on promotion etc. With the design business being the main earner currently, i'll prioritize that for the first 1/4 of 2012 i think.
Posted 28.11.2011 @ 7.39PM (Edited 28.11.2011 @ 7.50PM)
@robotporn - shooting with a $30 CCTV lens with a crazy depth of field makes it hard to get anything in complete focus, in saying that I do actually like the way they are turning out so I guess its some what intentional but i can see why the out of focus and blurriness could be annoying to some but i like it so. that picture of the feet looks great but i can't help but be slightly scared by them haha. how long were you running/walking for?
@jubbjubb - whoops, thought i had… uploaded lo res now (must have uploaded the hi res ones accidentally). your photo is amazing as always!
@justinfox - that looks lovely - is that the view from your house? its just starting to get really cold in london so i wouldn't mind seeing some colours like that haha!
Posted 08.10.2011 @ 2.15PM
Wow some great stuff this month, love the poster todd. @JeremyK - Your character designs are crazy awesome, loved the concept behind the entire book. @robotporn - love the clean look of the site, will actually keep note of this if i ever need some stock shots.
Been playing around with app icons for the better part of this week: